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Questions & Answers With Sat-May 6, 2025

Discussion on Devotion& Love, feeling the divine love, What a true heart is, the wings of Love&Truth

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-Sat joins that call after the group had spent the last six weeks discussing the topic of devotion.
She welcomes everyone and says: I am sure we are all listening to one another with an open heart and see what develops.
- A list of previously submitted questions is then asked and answered by Her.
1) How do we detect if the ego has entered into our devotion?
Sat: I have no idea; I have no idea. Devotion belongs to the ego anyways. God does not need to have devotion to Itself. So, I don’t know what to say about this question. Move on. So, today, all our topic would be on devotion because the topic that had been brought for the last month was on devotion.
2) At Sai Center on 5.24.20, You said:
“When you have an undying interest to go beyond the mind, then you begin to feel a love that you have never felt before and it is a divine love.”
My question is how do we feel the divine love in having an undying interest to go beyond the mind?
Sat: When your desire is to know God, or to know yourself, or to have eternal peace, or to have freedom, that only indicates that you are tired of day-to-day life. In other words, it does not have the flavor that it has for other people. That means the soul is ripened; the dissatisfaction and the anxiety of the soul is an indication of going after freedom. In that, when they encounter the solution to their problem by finding the Truth, the true love bubbles from their heart.
It is not a temporary love of one person to the other, or a desire that creates love for a good car or a good home, etc. It is a different love; it is a love that has left the worldly toward a divine love. You are giving your love to the Divinity and you are receiving it from the same Source. But all love comes from one Source, it depends where it is channeled to. That is what it means.
3) At the Sai Center study circle on 6.9.2023 You said:
“In life, a true Guide will poke at the true heart of a person. It awakens it and opens it.” My question is what is the true heart of a person?
Sat: True heart is not an emotional heart where we get emotional about something. It is a heart that is the base, again it is the center of our Being. That is what it means.
4) How do love & wisdom play themselves out in our lives as oval energy?
Sat: I think we have discussed that many, many times before, but it is worth mentioning it again. I think all of you have experienced the truth of this statement, where love is like plowing a field. Then the Truth pours the seeds on it. Without that love, the ground is not ready to receive the Truth and if it does accidentally or by chance, it doesn’t sit in the heart because their heart has been hardened by the events of life!
I know through My own life that in order for us to fly, we need both wings, one is love, one is Truth. It doesn’t have to be a devotional love towards the Guru, it can be love and interest in the teaching or the Truth, or the experiences or the encounters one has within oneself, but we all know what that is.
We come on the spiritual path out of pain most of the time, or frustration, or confusion, or even curiosity. But the first thing that happens is that your situation improves by hearing the Truth or hearing something that resonates with your heart deeply, that you had not heard before- as far as you can remember. That creates love, love ignites interest in your heart to go forward and find more. The more you find, the more this love drives you towards it. It is all divine activity that happens within one being. That is the only explanation I can give.
But remember no matter what we explain, even intuitively, it is a drop in the ocean. But when we go to a deep silence that we are conscious, conscious silence, none of the Truth or the love is necessary at that time. They all dissolve themselves. But until the silence is permanent, these two wings have to take us to a higher consciousness of living, a higher platform of understanding. So, they are not in vain; they are not useless-until they are. They are like a ladder.
-Aida interrupts to ask a question about what Sat is saying and has disrupted Sat’s flow.
Sat: Please I was just still talking. No, I lost it. Go ahead and ask your question.
Aida: Does the wisdom bring about the love and does the love bring about the wisdom from the One who is speaking the wisdom and from the One who is giving the wisdom? Does it work that way?
Sat: Why are you interested in that?
Aida: Because that is how I feel.
Sat: Then that is the reality for you. You don’t need My stamp; your experience is the biggest stamp you could have on your life. No genuinely, I am not trying to brush you away.
5) In the article titled “This love: Gold is gold once its gone through the fire of love….. ” from Your book, Love & Wisdom, page 10 You say:
“The absence of this love is also its appearance.”
Can You please help me understand the meaning of this?
Sat: The absence of this love is also its appearance- when you go to silence, there is an absence of everything, but it is also the appearance of the grace and love! In other words, what it is trying to communicate is not always what we see, there is also an unseen, that is an ocean of Existence. You can interpret it as love, as peace, as stillness, as bliss, ananda.
But beyond that I really don’t know, because that moment has passed for years. That poem came through many, many years ago. If I am coming up with any type of meaning, I am making it up now. I don’t know. If it is important to you, go to your heart and see what it explains to you. When you see something, it does not mean that the invisible does not exist. That’s all.
In a deep sleep we don’t feel like we exist but we do, the only thing that lags behind is the consciousness of this existence, but Existence always exists!
6) How can we stay with the pure “I am” longer?
Sat: By staying with pure “I am” longer, that is how you stay with it longer. (Chuckles) that’s it, I mean seriously. I can give you a method that makes no sense and it will not work, but why would I want to do that? Everything needs time to mature itself and behave! I would say by patience if I have to throw something in.
Now, if anybody has a question, not so much sharing but a question that just came up or they wanted to ask please go ahead.
-Nilu talks about a recent experience she had as she tries to get out of a parking space. She states that she was not paying attention and ended up hitting a metal post. This caused some damage to the car which she has had to fix.
In her own words: After that experience, I noticed that whenever I am now coming out of a parking space, I am more careful. I was thinking about how experiences become a memory and how that memory, as I have learned throughout our teachings could become an impression. How do we use experiences but not allow them to become a memory or a hindrance?
Sat: You don’t stop it from being a memory, you can’t take the job of the mind away and you can’t stop the mind to think. It is impossible, it is like saying “I want my hand to fall off.” Our method is knowing the quality of thinking to be impermanent, changing and how it comes 100% from the memory of impressions and a belief system, and it goes to the most unseen, annoying thing.
Just imagine that you were five years old and you enter a room and there is a perfume that you love. This perfume puts an impression on you at five. Then you enter a room at 35 and the same aroma comes, whether it is cooking or a perfume. You might not remember that this happened when you were five, but something happens, some memory comes up, some endearing memory. Now, if this impression was negative and it repeated itself in some sort of a situation, you would have the negative effect of it.
My thing is that we leave all of that alone- the job of the heart, the mind, the nervous system, etc. But what we can do is develop a sense of equilibrium by understanding what thoughts are, what the thinker is and how we can drop this tendency by recognizing them and knowing that they have no use in our life anymore. We always want to eliminate something, or to resist, or to remove, or to change, or to prevent, or to protect. All of that has to be thrown away as another concept. Concept-free would be like a deep sleep. Can we do that? Eventually!
It is not easy to identify with our humanhood, I don’t blame anybody for whatever behavior they have. It is not easy and this is why we have satsang, we have quiet time, to realize that we are not a human and to tap into that peace, tranquility, and equilibrium! Otherwise, we are like a rat in a cage, or a dog after its tail, or what Baba would call a dry bone!
But the good news is that our understanding is expanding, it really is. Each one of us can compare ourself to even six months ago, if we are still on the path, if we are still investing in ourselves, we see that when we hear the same teaching that we had, the Truth that we had five years ago, it makes sense completely differently! Let’s put our lens on that and not lose a moment in regretting or wishing.
Namaste to all of you. Good night.

-Sat
USA Chat-May 06, 2025

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