Question And Answer With Sat Oct 22, 2024

Question 1: May I ask You to elaborate on the following quote?
“What is Grace? Perfection in imperfect situations.” (Sai Center, 9.8.24)
Sat: In other words, we look at a problem or a situation according to the memory and the way we perceive pleasant and unpleasant. The appearance of something can be very imperfect, but yet, the base of that imperfection is Perfection. And if our attention and conviction go to the Perfect, the All-Present Perfection, the picture of imperfection either no longer has a hold on us or it will disappear. Just like a bad thought, when you don’t look at it. So, that is what it means.
Question 2: On a recent talk You said:
“If you want to make something repeated, dislike it. If you want something to be repeated, like it. Then it goes to disliking it. ‘I don’t like it,’ is a repeated thought’.” (10.14.24)
How can we live these words daily & etch them in stone for ourselves?
Sat: I get asked this so often. It is not that you need to remedy your thoughts, it is to dismiss your thoughts. The mistake that is being made even after many years of practice, is that we still cannot let go of our effort. And yet, when you put no effort of conversing with your mind, or liking or disliking, or even not conversing with your mind, you are in the State of your Being and the mind dies down. So, we all have to remember and give an understanding of what I am trying to say. We are not going to remedy repeated thoughts, or avoid embracing it, or pushing it away- we simply Stay. We simply find a separation between a thought and the one that can receive it or not!
It is a very, very natural state and we all have to get used to this natural state. At times it is the hardest thing for people to understand or to Stay in the natural state, because this life is so driven into all sorts of corners and all sorts of running in the mind.
It is like turning off the water in your faucet in the kitchen. When the water is running, you don’t need to find out how not to waste this water. “Should I put a bucket under it … should I do this or that …?” Once you are convinced that there is a knob that can turn it off, by turning it a certain way, then you don’t even give it a thought. That is how our approach should be, as far as understanding Stay- where you are not debating with yourself and trying to find exactly what that means. What it really means is that when the repeated thoughts come, consciously look at it and it goes to silence. Or, consciously transcend it by bringing your energy downward, that is what it means. But consciously, otherwise it is a pretend practice.
Question 3: Can I ask You to help me have a more profound understanding of the following quote:
“When you are in silence, you are with the formless Self. When you need the form, you are with your own form-full Self. Because it is all the Self, so even when your attention is on your Guru’s body, it is really on your own Reality.” (U.S. Chat 9.3.24)
Sat: Just because our attention goes to the thinking, emotion or concern for our body, does not mean that we are not still the Reality. It does not mean that we got separated from the Source of our Being. So, this is what it means.
The Self is always the Self and it does not go through transformation or any kind of timebound quality. The only difference that happens is that when the soul is born and takes a body in these realms, it has a choice to be with the formless Self or the form-full self, depending on where the attention is. Most likely it is with the lower self or the body self, because it is in the body. So, the bottom line and the main thing to understand is that all these shapes and forms that we see, they have only one Self, one Reality, one Beingness.
It is like the body has one Beingness and because of that Beingness in one’s body, all the cells are working, all the organs are working, the brain is working. So, that energy is keeping all the [components of the] physical form alive. The same applies on a bigger scale. There is one Self that we call “I” and we share that “I” in the physical realms. You say “I am,” I say “I am,” everybody points to themselves as “I”. Without knowing that we are not [a] separate “I”. That is all I can say about that.
Question 4: In Your presence having silence and “Being” is much more doable for me. I feel hopeful and happy. How can I seek physical closeness to my Guru without being a burden to Your or bothersome?
Sat: That love or that yearning that one feels is because of the way you feel around Me, and who does not want to feel good? But at the same time, when you are away from Me, let the love burn the residue in you. Don’t be in a hurry to find a way to get close and feel the peace. Let that love make you more one-pointed, one-concentrated from afar, and also to force you to do some soul searching, some more reading, some more contemplating, some more writing in your journal. I am just telling you what I used to do, what I still do.
Question 5: How can I benefit from the following wisdom:
“The dream is in the mind, yet you are the base. Without you, the mind and creation cannot exist. My dear one, you are That! You are the object of your own infatuation. You are the Beloved, the love and the lover.” (Most Precious, Q. 66)
Sat: By silence, by silence! When one goes to silence and we experienced it at the Sai Center on Sunday, in that quietness and solitude, everything vanishes. When you get a taste of that and you realize that that is your true nature, then you can play and live through your physical realms at ease, knowing that that which you are is untouched and available- until the realization is full. So, I would say silence throughout the day, just quieting the mind and Just Being, Just Be, Be, Be! And through that State of Being, we get knowledge, we get wisdom, we get clarity.
Question 6: What is the true meaning of Perfection in Your teaching?
Sat: Perfection is a word that does not mean what it usually does. Perfection means nothingness, it means no duality. I only say Perfection to point to the fact that there is no imperfection in it. But then when there is no imperfection in something, why do you need Perfection? Why would you even have knowledge of it? It is only the existence of opposites that makes Me have to say Perfection.
When there is only Existence, why would I want to say one Existence, but it is just for the sake of pointing to something that is Totality, sometimes we use a word that we cannot take it as usual. So, Perfection here, when I say “you’re perfect,” it means don’t worry about your defects, because who you are is devoid of both!
Just imagine if we were not taught good and bad, ugly and beauty. Just for one instant, wouldn’t your mind be empty, content and peaceful? If you dropped it all, whatever you ever learned, and yet lived in the body, as normally as any other human being- without contradiction, judgment or opinion. So, by Staying, this is what happens to us more and more and more! Because we are emptying the mind that was supposed to be emptied and be run by the higher mind.
Just imagine for an instant that you are not under the spell of good and bad, all your learning, just let it all go. Let it all go, all the judgment, all the memory, just let it all go. Just settle in your Perfection.
Stay Meditation or Stop Meditation is to no longer be under the spell of good and bad, because we are not paying any attention of mixing and we are emptying our consciousness. Therefore, the higher mind or the divine mind comes into action visibly, visibly- where we lead an intuitive life, without even knowing that it is intuitive! It is not a limited way of thinking anymore. Because the junk is out, the memory, the incidents, etc.
Since this is our life now, day to day we are spitting out the wrong knowledge we collected during many incarnations- God knows how many, by Staying! In other words, we are finding room in our Existence. That is the true spirituality, where you are not collecting information and you are paying attention only to those things that point you to something expansive.
So, saying “you are perfect,” or “we are Perfection,” should point you to a place that duality has no room anymore, because duality has bad and good.
-Aida asks the following question herself:
“After each retreat, I am consistently the person asking you the final question in Most Precious. How can I leave You & this serene environment and go back to my normal day-to-day life? This time & at this point in my life, how can I carry over to my current life, what I witnessed from You, Your wisdom and the up close witnessing of how You move about each moment? Without it being a mental push or pull?”
Sat: Well, Most Precious also answers that and I would refer you to that. Someone asked in Most Precious “how can we leave you and how can we be able to hold onto the Truth that was spoken these past three nights?” And then the Lady gives them a Sword, The Sword of Truth to eliminate what is not true. So, maybe you can take the answer to that question and make it a living exercise.
Anyway, it was very nice hearing from you. I send My love to all the people everywhere, in Atlanta, Reno, wherever you are. Namaste.

USA Chat
October 22, 2024