

Question & Answer With Sat May 14, 2024
Sat talks about the witness and the presence, being accepted, judging, resistance & attachment, the Guru and dealing with grief.
Question 1: On our last chat on April 30, 2024, You said, “Normally, at least most of the time, we are not aware of the Watcher or the feeling of Being. The Being that does things, the Being that the thought happened to. This is why we lose our peace because we don’t grab a hold of the sense of Presence, or you can call it Witness at the lower stages."
Part 1:
Are the Watcher, the Witness and the Presence the same? In other words, is watching the thoughts and feeling your Presence the same technique? Can You please elaborate?
Sat: They end up to be the same thing, with two different approaches. You either concentrate on the Seer or you concentrate on the Being, the feeling of Being. It doesn’t matter; both indicate the silence and leaving the imaginary behind. What is the second part of your question?
Part 2:
What do You mean by “witness at the lower stage”?
Sat: Yes, when we catch a hold of just being the witness, there is still a witness and then there is a process of witnessing and the object of what is being witnessed. You get to the point that you realize that it is your natural state and there is no question of witnessing or the process, etc. They all merge into a State of Being- Just Being- and letting the becoming become whichever shape it wants to. At that time, it is not something you hold onto, it is something that you are.
Question 2: Why do human beings need/want to be socially accepted?
Sat: Ignorance, separation. When we are a separate individual from the Source, we seek the approval of another individual to stamp the fact that we exist and we are this way and that way. When this feeling of separation from the Source decreases, the person doesn’t really care what people think of the person because the person is so secure and empty and feels that he or she is not the image in the creation, but actually the creation itself. It is like the dreamer and the dream.
This is why we seek love because the individual, the human part, as I have said before, is born in the manifestation of contradiction and opposites. It grows here, like a tree that grows in the desert, it looks different from a tree that is in a lush forest. We seek that love, not knowing the source of that love is Omnipresent and It is our own reality. The more and more we recognize this, the less and less we expect others to glorify us, accept us or give us what we need. It is a human characteristic and it really is nobody’s fault.
Another thing that is happening is that we miss loving our own Source, we spread our love outwards. That is why we are not familiar with the fact that we are that love that we are seeking. But as an individual, it is hard to recognize that or even realize it!
As we calm our mind, all the other things will fall in the right place. When we don’t have the interference of constant suggestion from different memories in our mind, then we settle down. In settling down, we can taste that eternal love.
It all turns back to the Self, but it is hard for a human to turn within because the thought of “I am somebody” was born in this world of going out[ward]. So, it is like reversing the whole system of living and that takes a soul that is really ready to receive it and to apply it. There are lots of distractions, inwardly and outwardly. So, we have to be alert and wise about it.
Question3: Can you please elaborate on the following quote?
“When we judge, we are not judging anything but our own mind, because there is nothing but your own mind. So don’t feel offended, don’t feel as though you are insulting someone; you are killing yourself. Don’t feel guilty for judging and don’t feel bad for the person that you are judging; feel bad for yourself. It is really this way, had it not been for the mind that contradicts itself, the judgment would have been nonsense.” (Sat, See the Seer DVD, November 14, 2006)
Sat: Yes, when you are judging someone, you are judging it in your mind and the turbulence happens in your mind. The stirring of the energy happens in your mind, so you are the receiver of this judgment. And if you judge someone outwardly, then the turbulence again happens because there is a discussion, a dispute, a fight between two people. Still, the fight happens in your mind.
But if there is a place that you are wise enough to suggest to someone something that could be better for them, or to see something that is the cause of their problem, then that would not be a judgment. That would be advice to someone and it would not hurt yourself because your intentions are not to criticize, but to make the situation better. So, yes everything is a conversation in the mind. If it is negative, it is a negative effect. If it is positive, it is a positive effect. And the receiver is the thinker.
Question 4: You have talked about resistance on many occasions. Would You please expand on the topic of resistance and attachment? And if appropriate, differentiate between resistance in the worldly settings versus on the spiritual path?
Sat: We all know what resistance does to our wellbeing, to our body and mind. The difference between the worldly approach to resistance and our approach is [that] in the world, the individual probably says “I need to control it … I need to get rid of it … I need to change the situation … I need to release myself of this tension in my body …” etc. With a spiritual approach, we are not controlling resistance, we are not pushing it away. We are not trying to avoid [things] but we are trying to recognize what is happening to us and why. And then we relax in that discovery and we let it go. Now, it might be hard to let go in the beginning, but as we practice by seeing, by watching and releasing, then as soon as resistance pokes its head up, we know what it is and the release is automatic.
In other words, the difference between any worldly approach and what we learn from childhood and a spiritual approach is that we don’t use force (in a spiritual approach.) We have (an) understanding of what is happening. We relax in our understanding and we let it go.
If we take too much effort for any part of the wisdom that is given to us, we are using our mind too much. It is like breathing, we don’t pay attention to our breathing. It just happens. If we pay attention to our breathing, then everything goes out of order. “Did I breathe deep enough … is it coming out good enough … am I healthy … am I this and that?” etc.
Any type of attention would be a mixture. In other words, we give attention but we also mix ourself with it. It causes disturbances in a palisade water of Consciousness. So, all our practices are to release effort. That translates to just the State of Being.
Now, religion- not the way the prophets expounded it at all but the way the human hand went into it- is full of do’s and don’ts, full of rituals that are absolutely hard to keep up with. But in a mystic life, we are releasing all of that because we are not that. We don’t need it. We don’t need do’s and don’ts and that is because as soon as we say no in our mind, there is an argument why we should say yes. When we say yes, there is an argument why we should say no. It is a battle. So, we stay away [from doing that], we can watch the battle until it dissipates. But we cannot be in the middle of it.
Question 5: Whenever we are with You, we want time to stand still, we want more and more time in Your Presence. I remember once one of the Ausheghan saying that even sitting next to You was too much distance. What is this insatiable and unquenchable urge to continuously be close to You? Is it the insatiable urge to experience more and more of our own freedom? Is it the divine love that we feel we can’t ever get enough of and want more and more of?
Sat: I remember asking this question of Myself. I remember when I was really having an incredible amount of yearning and discomfort to be close to My Guru, I asked Myself “where does this stem from?” It was My desire to merge the unreal to Real and end the suffering!
But the closest I could get to that feeling was to be close to My Guru, and that would give Me a release at that moment. But really truthfully, it comes from wanting to end this type of roller coaster.
Majority, if not all people, look for joy and again, it is within them. Then they find a Teacher and the Teacher says it is within you. You become so happy with knowing that “this is where I can find it,” that the love begins to bubble[up] in your heart.
But what I would like to say to those of you who feel this way- which I am not denying at all- I want to say that My biggest love that I can possibly express towards each person, who has love for Me is through the teaching, through the essence of My many, many years.
As far as expectation goes, I am not talking about your love, but as far as expectation to have more time to see more [of Me], you have to realize that I am giving the utmost, the utmost, the ultimate love and attention. So, stay at peace that we are the recipient of this much love in the form of wisdom.
Question 6: What is the best tool or practice to deal with grief and/or is there a guided meditation You can provide for grief?
Sat: If it is the loss of a loved one, Most Precious has a beautiful question and answer on that. If it is grief, Death Meditation is the best one. For a moment whatever we are grieving for, to just lay like a corpse and say “this is the finality of my consciousness of this creation.” Because it will happen, we are not going too far ahead. It is not something that is not going to happen to all of us. And then see how important that grief is.
Again, the grieving happens in the mind, your heart will always be tranquil. So, take refuge in that. Bring your energy down and Stay. If you cannot do any of that, know that this is a passing cloud. You might have grief now and joy another time.
Well, well, it is time to say Namaste and really mean it. Recognizing first our own Allness and then in that Allness, all the others as one. Until next time we meet, Namaste.
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May 14, 2024